When I went to the store and my size wasn't available, the store clerk ordered what I wanted online. She was very helpful. Wanted the old dark blue denim levis. I guess it's been awhile since I bought jeans, it's no longer available. After wearing the new "black/blue" I was ok with it. Normally prefer the 501's but decided to try the 505's. The difference in the fit was they are slightly larger in the waist.